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Posted on 07-JUN-08
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This site is called ''nudistspace'' but the family forum is 99% about incest, that gives real naturists a bad name. Anyone know of a GENUINE family nudist/naturist site with forums?? as i would NOT let my kids read the posts on here. Thanks.
 
swamdj Posted on 08-JUN-08
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Or, you could let them read it with you, and explain to them your objections and why you find incest to be a bad practice. That way you're giving them some sense of how some other people are while also explaining why the example isn't a good one to follow. But if they're not yet of an appropriate age, though, wait until they are. Then go ahead.
 
pjbgrl1987 Posted on 09-JUN-08
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why would you let your children go to a site that 99% of the males on here so their erect penises on here in the first place?
 
Moist Posted on 09-JUN-08
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This is so out of concept.Children are born with the natural longing to suck breast.
There is the beginings of Mother Son/Mother Daughter relationships. As you all know some are weaned off early,some continue till???
I see no problem with a love affair that continues???
 
Phillfree Posted on 09-JUN-08
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pjbgrl1987 write:
why would you let your children go to a site that 99% of the males on here so their erect penises on here in the first place?

99% ! ......now let me see, that was 99 out of every 100 when I went to school. So how come when I just did a random search, I only found 7 in the first 100, not all of them were erect, and one even had his pants on! :) ......and not one vagina! Believe nothing of what you hear, and only half of what you see, and now we have computer graphics, you better make that a quarter! :) Ok ok, ...before you say anything, I was only counting the main pics, yes there would be a lot more if you count what's in their album, but nothing like 99%, and they are only thumbnail pics, you don't have to open them and study it full size, just click next. If you think about it, if they have one as a main pic, at least it saves you the trouble of opening their profile and gives you an idea that you don't want to know them
 
Bareitnz Posted on 09-JUN-08
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Moist write:
This is so out of concept.Children are born with the natural longing to suck breast.
There is the beginings of Mother Son/Mother Daughter relationships. As you all know some are weaned off early,some continue till???
I see no problem with a love affair that continues???

What has feeding a child to do with sex?
Isn't that argument taken completely out of context?
What makes you think that a baby even has sexual or erotic thoughts when he/she sucks a breast for a feed?
 
Bareitnz Posted on 09-JUN-08
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FLnudistTeens write:
Without getting spammed and name call - Why did you say that she's afraid of it? I mean, NatureMum, was just stating an opinion that real naturists don't talk about incest.
I doubt NatureMum is afraid of incest. Now, Katyp13, why did you say that?

I don't think naturist don't talk about incest, but it is like any other subject. What NatureMum means is the constant talk about sex or incest from a small group of "nudist" gives the outside world a wrong impression about naturism or nudism. When you think rationally it isn't hard to understand why she doesn't want her children to read all this.

BTW FLnudistTeens, don't expect a serious answer from "Katy". She/he has more then one ID here and isn't probably not the girl in the pic.
 
jerby Posted on 09-JUN-08
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Moist write:
This is so out of concept.Children are born with the natural longing to suck breast.
There is the beginings of Mother Son/Mother Daughter relationships. As you all know some are weaned off early,some continue till???
I see no problem with a love affair that continues???




I agree with you Moist, in fact, my mother tried to wean me when I was very little. Feeling the deprivation, so deeply, I have tried my best to "get back to the garden". I have sampled as many of those beautifully designed and formed milk factories as I could. I'll never understand why a loving mother would ever want to deprive her adoring son of such a rewarding pleasure.

I know the World's 3 foremost authorities are poised to attack me for this one. But I'm done.
 
jerby Posted on 09-JUN-08
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swamdj write:
Or, you could let them read it with you, and explain to them your objections why {edit} the example isn't a good one to follow. But if they're not yet of an appropriate age, though, wait until they are. Then go ahead.




I am curious to know, how can you, or anyone else, know when an example is a bad one?

There is an old Pottawatomie prayer that in essence says, "please Lord, before I condem any man, let me walk a mile in his moccasins".

Or, for you down home folks, "before you beat a mule, see what it's like to pull his load for a day"

 
jerby Posted on 09-JUN-08
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Bareitnz, for awhile, you almost had me thinking you were taking your meds on schedule and the prescribed doses.

Now, seeing all your double negatives and reversals, I think you need to get back on your psycho-tropic regimen.

Please don't try to explain, you only make it worse.

You may want to read C.G.Jung before you start degnigrating his or Siggy's research.
 
ATXman Posted on 09-JUN-08
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Bareinnz, as usual your posts make a lot of sense and you show your point of view without lowering yourself to insulting someone you disagree with. The large number of posts promoting incest will give people the impression that nudism=incest. I have seen posts by newbies and people interested in nudism asking if all nudists were into incest or other sexual deviant behavior. This thought process will do much to harm acceptance of nudism by society in general.
 
ATXman Posted on 09-JUN-08
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Jerby, which type of doctorate do you have that you can diagnose someone as MH or MR by a post in a forum?
Moist, a childs instinct to breast feed is for nutrition, not sex. A child at that age doesn't even understand sex.
One thing those who think incest is OK need to think about is the legal issues. Whether you agree with them or not, unless you can get them changed you will have to bear the consequences. I know of a case where a mother had oral sex with her underage daughter and as a result lost custody of both her daughter and her son. Her husband also divorced her because he chose to be with his children instead of her. She also has to register as a sex offender for the rest of her life. Is it worth it?
 
Bareitnz Posted on 10-JUN-08
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Thank you, ATX. They harm the nudist/naturist lifestyle so much and lowering me to their level feeds them only. You don't have to a rocket scientist to see that some users here have more then one ID, the wording, structure and even the insults are exactly the same. Suddenly they all are Freud and Jung experts. I think I know which fragment they talk about, but that one has no relevancy to sex and certainly not to incest and you must very strange interpretation to read that in their publication. But I am waiting on there proof, probably the same kind of proof as Jerby had before about father and daughter in Australia, who didn't grow up with her father and met each other as adults. They fell in love and even have now a child together, after two miscarriages which were directly related to disfigurement caused by sex between relatives. That last part they totally forgot btw. Actuality I find this case something different, it is between two adults and not between an adult and a minor.
 
RedhairDad Posted on 11-JUN-08
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Swifthawk:

Correct you are that it is a few forum about incest. However, I just wish the threads gets locked, so we can introduce more people to NATURISM.

Why don't you people who are against incest leave the people who are for it alone and those of you who are for it, leave the ones who are against it alone.

Yes, it is time for us to stop this BS. Some will be for it, some will be against it. We can't change people's mind, so why argue about it?


Any moron can look at this site --

Yes, and it is time for textiles to come here and see what naturism is - a way to show people what is a great activity - relaxing nude, living nude and swimming nude.
 
GarrysNude Posted on 12-JUN-08
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I've been on a couple other moderated forums that wouldn't let some people that are here on there becuase of the subject material. I for one am glad this site is here, it lets us all ask about things that aren't allowed in the moderated forums (one of which is anti-gay). There are several topics and posts that are not allowed in the moderated forums.

So for all of you that don't like incest, you've said your piece now let it alone. It's not the talk about the different subject matter, it's the squabbling that turns people away.

People checking out the nudist lifestyle don't just visit one site to get an idea about it, they visit several. So our little group will not scare people away and in fact may make some a little more comfortable about it.
 
Bareitnz Posted on 12-JUN-08
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Garry, what do you want to say with that you have been moderator of a forum? Anybody can start a forum, anybody can become a moderator of a forum. It is the lack of one here, which is the problem.
You say talking about sex and incest on a nudist forum is ok. But reacting on that (what forum is all about) with arguments not.
In YOUR opinion is reacting with arguments squabbling or is calling names etc. squabbling?

I agree that people who want to see if the nudist lifestyle is something for them, don't want to see squabbling. But if they want to check if their kids are safe in a family nudist resort don't want to read about sex and incest either. I think when they see that a little group (with a big mouth) of incest and sex searchers are called back when they combine nudism with sex and incest, that it gives them a far more safe feeling than when those sex and incest searchers are left alone. Most resort don't want them aboard anyway.
 
GarrysNude Posted on 12-JUN-08
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Bareitnz write:
Garry, what do you want to say with that you have been moderator of a forum?


Never said that, I said I was ON a couple.


But reacting on that (what forum is all about) with arguments not.


Arguing/disagreeing is ok, name calling isn't and bringing up the same arguement saying you're against it is getting old. Most all the new post about incest are those against it.


In YOUR opinion is reacting with arguments squabbling or is calling names etc. squabbling?


Calling names and berating.


But if they want to check if their kids are safe in a family nudist resort don't want to read about sex and incest either.


Resorts and this forum are two different things.

 
GarrysNude Posted on 12-JUN-08
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Bareitnz write:


I agree that people who want to see if the nudist lifestyle is something for them, don't want to see squabbling. I think when they see that a little group (with a big mouth) of incest and sex searchers are called back when they combine nudism with sex and incest, that it gives them a far more safe feeling than when those sex and incest searchers are left alone. Most resort don't want them aboard anyway.


It would help if you read what I posted instead of between the lines trying to over-read.

I'm not talking about resorts. Most nudists are home nudists and forums are their only outlet. Not every nudist fits into your little mold of a nudist. Like I said before, one forum I frequent is anti-gay and anti-bi but there are some out there that want a place to go to talk freely and this site offers it to them and others that have a different set of standards.

If you don't like it, go somewhere else.
 
RedhairDad Posted on 14-JUN-08
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Yes, AJ is gay - and yes his mom and I - are fine with his choice. As for me being gay, I'm not. There is nothing wrong with HOMOSEXUALITY if you live in a CHRISTIAN MANNER - like AJ and his boyfriend does.
I don't mind HOMOSEXUALS - I (and AJ and his boyfriend) don't like these MORONS who make the HOMOSEXUAL lifestyle look like a freak show. Most gays I know are normal people - not these freaks you see on the news celebrating 'GAY PRIDE'.
 
cg19 Posted on 16-JUN-08
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NATUREMUM write:
This site is called ''nudistspace'' but the family forum is 99% about incest, that gives real naturists a bad name. Anyone know of a GENUINE family nudist/naturist site with forums?? as i would NOT let my kids read the posts on here. Thanks.

Unless you have your computer really well locked down, I don't know how you'd stop them, if they happened to come to this site. Unless the parent is a computer pro, odds are pretty good that by the time a kid is 12 or so, he or she probably knows more about a computer than mom or dad do, and probably can figure out how to get around censorware on the computer.

I'd far rather let my kids know about things and talk to them about them, than try to hide them from them and have them find out on their own, and then NOT come to me.

That being said, I'm totally opposed to sex between adults and underage people, and have warned my kids against adults coming on to them.




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